Things to do with FOAF

topic posted Sat, February 21, 2004 - 1:01 AM by  Julian
Once we get FOAF produced the next question is what to do with it.

1) A Wiki for ideas
rdfweb.org/topic/ApplicationIdeas

2) Links on my Ecademy profile
www.ecademy.com/account.php

On the second, check out the links to Plink and Local-News. The Plink link uses SHA1(email address) as the key.

Local-News depends on calculating and then passing Lat/Long values taken from the user's Post/Zipcode. I find that one rather cool. ;-)
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Julian
London
  • Re: Things to do with FOAF

    Wed, March 3, 2004 - 11:54 AM
    A note here, Plink now has an SMS query facility. Send a message with a name and get FOAF bio information back. beta.plink.org/mobile.php

    I think there's still a real shortage of FOAF applications. It seems like everything so far is just about turning a single FOAF file into HTML or providing a tool to help you maintain a FOAF file.

    I'm working on RateMyFoaf which should be up any day, but this is still greasy kids stuff. Where's the meat?
    • Re: Things to do with FOAF

      Wed, March 3, 2004 - 11:56 AM
      BTW the plink author, Dom Ramsey, needs a job. Somebody employ him! www.ecademy.com/account.php

      And why can't I edit a previous post here...
      • Re: Things to do with FOAF

        Fri, March 5, 2004 - 7:41 PM
        Ah yes - editing posts - can you do that - after the fact - on Ecademy?

        I'd LOVE to hire Dom - but I'm broke.

        :-)

        :-(
        • Re: Things to do with FOAF

          Sat, March 6, 2004 - 1:34 AM
          Yes. Most places on Ecademy you can go back and edit a post. Certainly, blogs, blog comments, forum comments.
          • Re: Things to do with FOAF

            Sat, March 6, 2004 - 3:48 AM
            Our main concern has always been the idea of going back and "altering history". There are certainly some tribes where having the capabilty to go back and edit may actually be a detriment. I have been thinking about some reasonable rules for this, and currently I have come up with the following:

            For posting AUTHORS:
            1) You may edit your posting until there is a reply. The fact that the posting has been edited, and by whom, will be shown on the UI.
            2) once there is a reply to a posting, the AUTHOR may no longer change the origianal.
            ??) Should the author of a tribe have the capability to delete an entire thread?

            For MODERATORS:
            1) The ability to delete an entire thread at any point.
            2) The ability to delete any posting that has no response
            2A) The ability to delete any posting and all of its responses
            3) The ability to EDIT any posting, and the UI would specify who deleted and when. This edit may take the form of deleting part or all of the content on a single post, whatever is appropriate. But everyone would know that the moderator had done this as part of the UI for the edited posting.

            With all that said, Julian, have you guys ever had a problem with people going back and changing their point of view after a conversation is underway? Maybe we are over-analyzing this....
            • Re: Things to do with FOAF

              Sat, March 6, 2004 - 6:56 AM
              As far as author mods go, if I may refer to the otherwise very upsetting Orkut: I was very active in the communities there for a while, and while I did see a post get edited out from under a discussion once or twice, it was never critical or disruptive as I saw it. The nice thing was that I was able to correct mistakes or update links, etc. It gave me more of a feeling of importance for each message.

              Marking a post as having been edited would be enough for me, and I think it would work.
            • Re: Things to do with FOAF

              Sat, March 6, 2004 - 7:21 AM
              Yes, I think you're over analysing. But we'll all get bitten some time! There's always some awkward cuss who commits virtual suicide and deletes or removes *all* their posts. But it's very rare. Mostly people just need to edit out mistakes or add a link they forgot.
            • Re: Things to do with FOAF

              Mon, March 8, 2004 - 3:42 PM
              Brian, I also posted a thread today on 'TribeIdeas' ('edit / delete one's own posts') on this subject since this is at the very top of my tribe wish-list.

              I like your suggestions, except that I don't think the 'until a reply' caveat is necessary:

              1) As Liz pointed out on my TribeIdeas thread, all this really would do is prevent editing on fast-moving threads, where replies may happen before you even check the thread again yourself.

              2) For another, if everyone can edit / delete their posts, all that editing a post well back in a thread would do is allow each person to decide whether the edit to the original post merits an edit to or deletion of their own reply-- or not.

              either way, not a bad thing in my book. if you *really* want to 'archive history' then next to the 'edited by & when' notation, add a link to 'cached version of this post'-- a waste in my view, but that would address that concern, and still allow people to keep threads somewhat readable without 'addendum / correction / and oh yeah by the way' posts popping up all the time. and even better, once you make this change, a thread author can manage or remove their own words without destroying the contributions of others...

              and as the other two folks who replied to you pointed out, on almost every other online community, the ability to make minor corrections is a basic and essential feature whose beneficial uses far outweigh the occasional irritation of an abuse.
  • For Dating

    Thu, July 22, 2004 - 9:45 AM
    I don't care much for the friend of a friend stuff. I don't want people to know who my friends are. I'm more interested in finding a country girl who lives nearby :)

    So I'm interested in searching FOAF files that have detailed profile and dating elements, and lat/long data, so we can meet others in a particular geographical area for dating and friendship.

    I have a dating site, bashful.com. I use ASP and SQL and it works extremely fast. Unfortunately, I get no traffic and I can't compete against Match.com or the big guys. So if I can't beat them, I want to make it all FREE and better for the whole world.

    Possibly earn money by becoming a well trusted site that creates FOAF dating files for users and searches for them. Privacy and SPAM are big concerns of mine though.

    I'd like to tweak these xml/rss pages to handle more tags ...

    Seeking help and guidance!

    David

    burnett@bashful.com
    • Re: For Dating

      Sat, July 31, 2004 - 2:45 PM
      Sounds great, start publishing everyone's foaf files and I'm sure you'll get attention and interoperability.

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